10:02:52 It also gives everyone a second to do what you want with your screens.
10:02:57 Hi everyone welcome to the tech session with the media factory.
10:03:03 This is the 4 fourth of 4 workshops that We're providing for folks who are doing stuff with Vermont Arts Council.
10:03:13 This was an event that was funded by the vermont Arts Council in order to support the community in in arts organizations working on their digital programming.
10:03:26 And that means a lot of different things. we've already covered video production editing essentials.
10:03:30 Going live with what you've got and this one is our text session.
10:03:35 We're going to try and cover anything we didn't get to or anything you have questions about specifically, particularly in regards to media production technology.
10:03:46 But we'll do our best to answer whatever we can here today.
10:03:49 If you have a question you can throw it into the chat we're also going to just kind of keep asking folks to share questions.
10:03:57 You can also use voice the sessions recorded, so people can watch it again.
10:04:02 Later we will have a slide show accompanying it that you can also look at and has some cool links to resources, and that will be all shared at the Vermont Arts Council website.
10:04:13 I need to change my name here i'm jen Ferrara I'm. the community engagement manager.
10:04:17 I you see her pronouns and I'm here at the media factory in Burlington. Vermont.
10:04:24 I am going to pass the mic to my co-host cross.
10:04:32 Hey? everybody. Thanks for joining us i'm ross working in the media factory with jin the education Coordinator. and to start us off today.
10:04:41 Figured that, what we would do is just go around share what brings us in.
10:04:44 As Jim mentioned. This is a lot more of a you know.
10:04:47 A Q. A. session where if you have any you know pressing questions. Anything that you've been working on lots of additional help with something you want to explore you've got both of us here.
10:05:00 Today. So what's you know gonna make this the most you know, helpful for us, and and the beneficial to you is to to hear about what what brings you in
10:05:09 So just to you know, pop up our our our slide show here just so that we can see this feel free to. you know.
10:05:23 We can open up. We were a small group feel free to to open up your mic and ask a question to start off.
10:05:30 Type it in the chat. Perhaps the chats a little easier just to start off with
10:05:34 We can see if people have some like questions. but just what brings you in today.
10:05:38 I know some folks have reached out sent us an email some things that we'd want to take a look at today, so we can definitely get to that in a moment.
10:05:51 But yeah, share your name. What brings you? And we have a couple more slides.
10:05:54 So yeah, pop those into the chat we'll take a look at that.
10:05:57 In a second. we just wanna catch everybody up on who we are, what we do.
10:06:01 So Jen i'm gonna pass it back over you for our next slide
10:06:38 And Jen I think you're muted
10:06:49 Hi! everyone! That was a nice little pause for you to respond in the chat while I was muted, and I am sharing my screen in a second.
10:06:58 Here. it's one of those things you've got to keep moving, and it's great.
10:07:02 We're all getting really good at letting people know when they're muted. all the sort of skills we've developed from doing this remote workshops stuff. is great.
10:07:18 So just to share a little bit here for those of you who haven't been to other workshops.
10:07:21 The media factory is a community media center. Burlington Vermont is where we're situated.
10:07:27 We serve a whole area over here in Chittenden County, and a little bit of Addison County down to virgin's.
10:07:36 We provide people with a free access to video technology and media making tools.
10:07:43 Cameras, tripods, lights, microphones. You name it.
10:07:46 You can also produce shows here in our Tv studio, and you can have a radio show at our low power of Pm.
10:07:53 Radio station, and we provide workshops like these for the general public and partner, with organizations to provide professional development and other types of workshops.
10:08:03 And then we distribute work, so you can create work here and then share it with the region through our channels.
10:08:10 Here we have cable channels. We also have online you know a website with the videos streaming online and we're part of the remote access network community media centers all over the State.
10:08:22 So if you're not here in our area you probably have one in your backyard and all together, we produce content for the Vermont community Tv channels, it's a statewide community television channel.
10:08:33 So we love working with our organizations and folks who are doing work in communities, bringing people together that's kind of our jam on the media side.
10:08:43 We're really glad to be here with you today, and just let's take a look at the questions folks have
10:08:57 I'm seeing that in the chat we're getting some good questions here.
10:09:02 Some people sharing where they're coming in from and just so that everybody you know, just to spark some ideas here help out with the brainstorming process of what we might talk today here are some sums of the topics that
10:09:16 we can cover, you know, Jin, and I here at the media factory, you know we're
10:09:22 You know, many years of experience working in the field but also we've developed a couple dozen workshops over the course of last several years for the media factory.
10:09:31 So we have a wide, wide range of workshops that we can pull resources from things we can talk about, but just some, you know, some some things as spark the inspiration here.
10:09:43 We can talk from everything, from to post production from production planning to about what tools we're going to use during our productions, production roles, how people might be involved.
10:09:54 Post production work, you know, what some of the things we can think about when we're editing our how we might then move that to distribution and getting it out there.
10:10:04 So people can engage and see and be a part of what we're making, and then you know anything else.
10:10:12 So just leave the slide up for a moment while some more things are coming in in the chat
10:10:25 I am seeing a lot of folks who are just starting off with the looking into the tools for just live programs.
10:10:36 It looks like a number of folks are part of organizations that have been running events and and and programs for a while.
10:10:46 So some of you have met individually and and spoken with outside of these sessions.
10:10:51 And so looks like a lot of us are here just starting off in the you know, giving ourselves a digital presence and and getting what we do available to people online which is great and there's a couple, of things that we can we can take a
10:11:09 look at, and I also would recommend that anybody coming in in that in that capacity is taking a look at the last workshop that we did about going live that workshop.
10:11:20 You know, really talked to a lot of the different software and we're not happy to go into that stuff again today.
10:11:24 But just you know, if you are joining us for the first time.
10:11:28 This is part 4 of a series and so there are, you know, very dedicated workshops.
10:11:33 Some of this stuff. So just saying that's another Resource if you some of that, too, it will be on the Vermont Arts Council website shortly awesome.
10:11:45 Oh, really! now my chat is probably covering up some of that text there on the screen.
10:11:51 I can leave this up for another moment, but it seems like that's a good place to start, and talking about some of the different platforms.
10:11:56 We can use some of the different things to keep in mind when doing online events.
10:12:02 I have a question sorry cross this doesn't might not pertain to
10:12:10 Yeah, broadcasts. Our events digitally are the like rights to things.
10:12:22 And selling tickets to them, that are you know protected, and except such a nice I mean I know, because vimeo we had a password protected.
10:12:34 But we've kind of I think we've kind of our on the border of giving up on the concept because we can't sell more tickets than our capacity, and our capacity is already small so it makes it challenging to sell
10:12:47 in person tickets and live ticket, you know, live streamed or or recorded streams.
10:12:53 Sort of content to has these restrictions to copyright restrictions over music or video. music.
10:12:59 Primary in relation to theater so music theater performances that we have.
10:13:09 Obviously we can't do movies or anything like that but we have community theater.
10:13:13 And then we have a kind of a more professional theater that uses a couple of unions.
10:13:17 So those were. We tried it once, and we only have 75 seats in our theater.
10:13:24 So I had to then block off a number of seats.
10:13:26 So we for sure we didn't sell more you know tickets and capacity for every performance.
10:13:32 I shouldn't know that was something everybody struggles with or if it's just the content that we're trying to go with is the capacity about the like rights and permission sure like limit that you're allowed to show is that what you're
10:13:46 saying, I think that is going to be an ongoing issue I know we've seen that a lot with live performances when we record events, and you know we've had to there's stuff we have not been able to do you know documenting
10:14:04 things when there's an issue around the cost, cost being prohibitive for getting permission to do a live stream or a broadcast it, I think, changes the type of programming.
10:14:18 You do, and maybe you separate out the live events from the online events.
10:14:22 And you think you know, this might be much longer, much more long-term planning thing.
10:14:26 But looking at what are things you could do online, that don't require a license, or are less expensive to produce and then sell as many tickets as you can, so sort of thinking of them as different things because unfortunately, licensing
10:14:45 is an ongoing challenge. Radio is a different type of thing than Tv.
10:14:51 We can't we can play any pre-recorded music on the radio, because we have ascap there and Bmi. but we can't do it for our channels.
10:14:59 So yeah, that's it's really a challenge yeah Okay, thank you
10:15:09 That's what I wonder if reaching out you know to the the organization that is you know, providing these these pieces, you know.
10:15:16 Delivering these, you know, parameters around.
10:15:21 You know how many people could be in attendance to these events i'm sure they have people that are interested in putting on larger displays.
10:15:29 You know in the you know throughout the some of their conversations with people might be worth just checking it with them, seeing if they have certain content that interest you interest the people that you're working with that might you know open that up a little bit more.
10:15:42 I know just was mentioning some of the places that we will partner with for recording live events often encounter some of these restrictions, but sometimes they find work that they can perform or showcase that's not necessarily the holden to those
10:15:59 parameters. So i'd just be worth reaching out to them, too.
10:16:01 Yeah, Yeah, Definitely: Thank you.
10:16:24 Okay, So I. we also have some slides we can share which will hopefully kind of spark some thoughts for you.
10:16:31 And a lot of what we're going to share today.
10:16:36 We touch on is some of our other workshops, but these are also some of the things we either think are worth talking about.
10:16:42 Again and again or are things that you know we didn't get to because we didn't have enough time in our previous workshops with you.
10:16:52 So this is some of our favorite things to talk about or share and as I said earlier, we're going to be sharing this slide show.
10:17:00 So anything that's a link you can download will have will have available.
10:17:03 So this is like a form we have available for you don't worry about reading it.
10:17:07 Obviously it's way too tiny. But this is a production checklist.
10:17:11 And this is excellent. This was put together, by jason Raymond, who's one of our board members, and is also a teacher at Burlington Technical Center, where he works with high school students learning how to produce Films and it's
10:17:24 just full of really good things to think about you know often you get really worried about turning on the camera, and the setup you have in the moment when you're recording.
10:17:32 But there's so much you could do in advance to make things run well, and there's some stuff that's really. So it's really funny, and low-key like snacks you know if you've got folks that
10:17:44 you're interviewing or you're having people come in you know working on your crew, and they're you got to feed them.
10:17:51 But you got to be careful not to feed them too much.
10:17:53 Finding the sweet spot where you give people energy to keep going and a little park, but not so much that they're lethargic and can't talk on camera or you know i'm ready for a nap when they should be
10:18:04 filming but there's also just going through your list of everything you need to be prepared.
10:18:10 The stuff management. This is a really biggie actually i'm kind of working away backwards, talking about your location prop If you're doing a live stream performance.
10:18:22 If you were doing an interview, if you're documenting something knowing knowing this space, you're going to be working in really really well where the outlets are.
10:18:31 What the weather might be like, and the potential impacts that that could have on your production crowds.
10:18:38 Is there a busy time in a quiet time at your space?
10:18:42 How hard is to get there with your equipment. Do you need some kind of like cart to get everything from your vehicle to the location?
10:18:51 All those kinds of things become much more apparent when you go on site, and you just check out the situation.
10:18:59 That's also you can find out How close you are to some foods or those snacks you know is there a grocery store nearby, or a pizza place.
10:19:07 You know how what's in your area is really really good to know and understand, especially if you're not at your own venue.
10:19:14 And if you're at your own venue maybe you just have to look at it in a different way. when you're thinking about video than when you're thinking about performance and focusing, just on the audience in the seats, So this
10:19:23 is one of my favorite pieces. We also have a production plans in Ross.
10:19:32 Do you want to talk about this? I can leave the share up, and you can just go ahead and talk about it.
10:19:35 Sure, you know. also you just mentioned you know thinking about in your production.
10:19:41 You know what's the best time of data record that also reminds me of one of the previous sessions, and we were talking about.
10:19:47 You know some of the scouting location scouting that's the kind of that's the time of day that you would want to visit that site.
10:19:54 You know, to see what it's like there we talked about this a little bit during the live stream session as well, you know.
10:20:00 You wanna try to replicate the conditions of your production as closely as possible for all the tests that you're doing so, especially if you're doing something that's streaming I know a lot of people are in here for
10:20:09 streaming today, you know, if you intend to do an event on a certain night at a certain time test at that same day time the previous week, for 2 weeks in advance that way, you have an idea of you know what sort of you
10:20:24 know traffic is on the on the now bogging down the bandwidth.
10:20:31 There to to help you figure out what quality of what quality of your stream might be at.
10:20:37 But a lot of this. These concepts of timing and replication are, you know, going to carry through all the different segments of production.
10:20:46 And hit upon a number of different ones live streaming, or you know, productions for certain.
10:20:55 You know. you know, video on demand stuff later to watch later.
10:20:59 And that's where a lot of these production plan she's can come in handy this is a template here.
10:21:07 You can see it on the left side of the screen. I have no idea what just happened.
10:21:11 I apologize. We'll get your It back as you can see we have a lot of materials We can share with everybody.
10:21:18 So our production plan here on the left side, you know, basic template.
10:21:21 But just some of the things that you want to know about, especially when you look you know, down you got the cast and crew says name and roll.
10:21:30 I would put contact phone number you know if you're if you're doing a shoot off site, you know a place that's not your own.
10:21:35 Your own organizations. you know who owns the site who's your contact.
10:21:41 If anything happens, there be a tech, or just, you know, Are the doors locked?
10:21:45 You have to get in there early Can You not connect to the Wi-fi of somebody's private land that you know the might want to be notified about.
10:21:53 You know. we are doing this cool project this summer, where we're recreating the star wars a new hope film, and you know a lot of those scenes have you know some some action, some some combat, little bit of
10:22:07 violence. And so you know a lot of people. then asking, you know, How do you film some of the stuff with, you know, life sabers and blasters, you know, out in the world, you know, get in contact with the right people let them know
10:22:18 what you're doing ahead of time make sure you have their numbers that way, you know.
10:22:22 So anything you know Any questions arise, you know you can.
10:22:28 You know who to call the right people already informed so a lot of that's coming down to the production planning here and just making sure that when you get to your site.
10:22:39 You know who's involved where they're gonna be what the gear is that you need what the props are?
10:22:43 Who's bringing that stuff? How long do you have access to this for?
10:22:46 And then the people, How long do you have access to them?
10:22:48 For you know, can't just expect that everybody has the same schedule as you and a production.
10:22:54 So you know really finding the best times to work with people. and then being prepared with your shots what you're gonna shoot when you're there, it's really important that that is a really primary thing to think about you don't want to go to
10:23:06 your editing site and realize oh, awesome of this thing at that place would have been great.
10:23:13 But I don't have that and I can't go back there now, I don't have the people the tools.
10:23:19 You know. the same same thing goes for interviews. This is why you know, a good interviewer will maybe develop their questions Well, in a dance, if you have a pre- interview session with the person, do some research, on the person you want to
10:23:33 make sure that once you, leave the production you're satisfied with that captured in that moment, because it's often really hard to go back.
10:23:41 I see, Judy, your hand is raised at the moment so i'd like to call on you and see if thanks for us.
10:23:48 Do you have? Where does the emergency planning?
10:23:53 Come in like, let's say you have an outdoor event and rain happens, and you have a backup to go inside.
10:24:02 Is that here where you would plan for that as well? absolutely.
10:24:06 Yeah, for sure. Yeah. rain location site or rain date.
10:24:10 All of us, if you want to know in advance because you don't want to start rating and be like Oh, we have no plan right.
10:24:15 Prepare for the worst. Obviously expect the best but you know definitely.
10:24:22 Keep that stuff in mind that's a really good one to think about this.
10:24:26 Yeah, absolutely. And you know, in addition to knowing where you might go.
10:24:34 You want to make sure you you'd wanna make sure that that's sites available accessible.
10:24:38 Everything that you would do for your primary so you'd want to find out for your secondary size, too.
10:24:44 Depending on, you know, the complexity of your event, it might be easier to pivot to a different location based upon you know, some emergency relocation need.
10:24:52 But otherwise. yeah, definitely. yeah check off as many boxes as you can on the way there, and that that production planning sheet that you shared a lot of great things that always jogged my memory the things I need
10:25:09 to remember I'm big fan of checklists and and templates when it comes to this stuff, because you know the the simple stuff the Monday and stuff the the ordinary and the the the stuff that you know you're like Oh, of course I
10:25:20 have to do that. that's the step you forget most often you know. you know, building yourself a checklist. anything that goes wrong.
10:25:30 Add that to the checklist of next time, you know, to check that thing.
10:25:35 And also that said, If you have a checklist definitely look at it and use it.
10:25:41 Don't be like Oh, I know it's on the checklist, because you've put that stuff there for reasons.
10:25:46 And yeah,
10:25:51 I I just say that, cause I do that all the time like. I make these forms for things that I need a factory, and i'm like oh, I know what exactly what those 6 things are there.
10:26:01 But then I just, you know, forget one of them got a look at the checklist.
10:26:03 You make
10:26:11 Yeah, agreed. We have such good checklists i've actually used them for some of my art projects.
10:26:16 I had an event not that long ago where I was doing tabling, and I used the like production sheet just to keep track of all the stuff I needed to bring all the stuff I need to keep track of.
10:26:27 And I was like, Yeah, this is totally what you need to do for everything I should do.
10:26:30 This for going on trips. you know it's just amazing how a list it.
10:26:38 I also think it's like it's important to look at it's important to do it.
10:26:40 It's also helps you take it out of your brain if you're someone who gets anxious about events.
10:26:45 I will say that as much as i've done this for most of my life, I still get anxious before workshops, you know, just to make sure I covered all the ways I got everything, and if I don't have that list I just
10:26:54 spiral. i'm just like Oh, I need to do this Oh, I need to do this.
10:26:58 Oh, I need to do this, i'm like no you wrote it down.
10:27:01 It's good the other thing that's I think really big and hard when you're in a small organization is to get help, you know.
10:27:11 Don't try to do this by yourself. this is a great place to bring in volunteers.
10:27:17 You know this is something people can do. They can help you, you know.
10:27:21 You can find people who are really interested in filming, or who are interested in learning about.
10:27:27 You know more about the behind the scenes of your events and somehow giving back and supporting your organization, who are also reliable, right?
10:27:34 You need a person who's going to show up But this is a great place to like. Get the help that you need, and make sure you ask for it, because it's just too much to be keeping track of all the things that are going
10:27:48 on, especially if you're doing a ton of work on running the event.
10:27:51 This is like a second job having the the stream of the event.
10:27:57 And so really consider that. and you know, long term I think you should think about budgeting as you're budgeting for your programming.
10:28:08 What those costs are going to be for you whether it's staffing or equipment.
10:28:11 I know we just had the cycle with the Vermont Arts Council for a budget.
10:28:15 I think time is a huge piece of it it's not just the gear. The ongoing thing is going to be people helping to do this.
10:28:21 So there's enough people on the ground to make sure that when do when things do come up, you've got coverage, and you can focus on the event itself as well as the capturing of it.
10:28:40 We have, I think, a couple more pre-production things that we can share. Ross.
10:28:45 Do you want to share your screen? Yeah, Sure. And then I think we can talk about camera stuff, Right?
10:28:52 We got some of that, too. Yeah, And I am seeing a lot of people talking about starting up some live stuff, so it might be worth going into.
10:28:58 Some of the live conversations we talked about in our last workshop again.
10:29:02 There are definitely some things that in, you know, having done a lot of live events.
10:29:06 Things that that stuck out to me in the development of that workshop that are just saying really helpful tips.
10:29:13 Actually to talk about one cause we're talking about pre-production here.
10:29:17 You know, and thinking about what gear you might use.
10:29:21 A lot of us are joining here with, you know webcams here.
10:29:23 A lot of us are thinking about streaming some of these events.
10:29:29 And you know, looking at you know, Laurie, your question here about recording services.
10:29:37 You know that some that's that's a that's a unique one outside of
10:29:44 You know it's it's important to to capture the community, I think in an event like that, and the audience.
10:29:49 So you wouldn't necessarily want only a camera that's directed necessarily like at the stage, or or like you wouldn't even know music in a music.
10:30:01 Stream. Certainly wouldn't just have somebody sitting in front of a camera like this, as you would you know, maybe in a a meeting of you know, for some different organizations.
10:30:13 So one thing to keep in mind just seeing that you know don't have a camera or mic on that Pc.
10:30:17 That's that's totally cool today. but you know thinking about what the tools are that that you need and how you might be able to include, You know, external cameras microphones you know
10:30:34 it's interesting, We talk you know about these live stream events we're doing one right now.
10:30:40 But we're using tools that we wouldn't necessarily use you know in our other events.
10:30:45 So worth going into some of that stuff, I think
10:30:54 Let's see here, so in addition to we just looked at these production plans.
10:30:59 This is another one that I like using it's in a way similar to the as you can see here.
10:31:05 The shot list, Is it's similar it breaks it up breaks it out a little bit more.
10:31:10 Some more detail. free shot. but this is just another way that you can kind of bring storm.
10:31:17 What you might need Richard, for some of the work that you're doing where you're out on site.
10:31:22 Not necessarily recording, like an event that has a starting to finish but you're, you know, compiling footage to edit together later to tell a story.
10:31:29 This is going to be real really key for something like that. And you know you don't want to go overboard, but you definitely do want to really think about everything that you want and shoot things in a number of times.
10:31:42 So you know this is shot number and then shot size angle and then description, and then notes.
10:31:46 So it's really to like dive in like do you need an establishing shot.
10:31:49 Do you want an establishing shot, though that like pans across the site?
10:31:54 Because it's really wide, or something. you know is there a building, you know you want a shot of the buildings that you probably want, like different angles of the building, you know You might want one of the different times a day different parts
10:32:07 of the year. So you know, some of these fields here can really break out.
10:32:12 Really what you're looking for so that way you know really don't miss anything.
10:32:18 Your onsite shooting that'll be really important for you there!
10:32:23 Especially if you have people with you who know the site.
10:32:27 You know know what as I said earlier. it's hard sometimes. to get back to a location, and you know replicate what you were doing earlier to get more footage So I think so. last well here's another one this is just
10:32:42 an example that a copy, just some language that you might want to think about.
10:32:50 These are release forms you know people who are involved in your productions behind the scenes.
10:32:54 Don't necessarily need this, but you know people who are on camera.
10:32:58 You wanna just make sure that they're like this and they're image and you know the things that they say they're giving you permission to use, and to distribute to you know most people will be you know cool with that although
10:33:11 I will say we've had some events in the media factory in the past, where, you know talk with somebody.
10:33:18 We're gonna record their presentation somewhere or something some some event that they're doing.
10:33:22 And then you know we have so much conversation with them that you know we we don't.
10:33:29 Well, okay, that this is not a very specific one that's happened before, But, you know it. We have had people who then say, Hey, I am not happy with how I was so I don't want you to air it and you know
10:33:45 Certainly, if you don't have a release form that becomes a bigger problem, if you were to errand at that point, we were like, Okay, that's cool.
10:33:52 You know we'll try the recording again sometimes in the future. But, you know you just wanna make sure people are consenting to their
10:34:03 Their appearance, and what they're saying to be representing themselves to the public.
10:34:07 This is especially true. if you're working with conversations or or other groups that may you know, have a particular message that they wanna uphold
10:34:20 And but generally anybody should sign a release fun richard I'm, seeing that your hands raised Yeah, so along you know the lines of what you're talking about right now.
10:34:33 If we're recording a a live program that has an audience and maybe there's questions from the audience, and so you you know, the camera captures an individual asking a question of the presenter.
10:34:48 And then you you know that then that's going to be either, you know, shown on Tv or uploaded to, Youtube you know, is there just is there like a protocol for like giving people a heads up ahead of time or would
10:35:05 you suggest anybody that's going to be speaking and therefore captured on camera, you know.
10:35:11 Ask them to sign a release or you know yeah that's great question. There's a couple of ways to go about this.
10:35:19 You know anybody who's like very specifically on camera like if I was recording you and myself doing an interview i'd get you to sign a release form.
10:35:26 If you're in a public space and it's obviously that you're recording, either with signage or with the equipment being very visible.
10:35:33 Then, for people participating in like an audience way. you know they are.
10:35:39 You know this is in a public space. then, you know.
10:35:43 Then they can that that they don't necessarily need a release form
10:35:48 I would just think about the level of involvement there.
10:35:51 Sometimes you can write blanket release forms that like if you're working with an organization.
10:35:55 Jen, you might know a little bit more about some of the stuff than than I do.
10:35:58 But you know definitely, Anybody very specifically who's on camera being recorded needs a release form, and then how you address the the next folks rather with like blanket release for the site or working in a public space where it's really
10:36:11 obvious. But Jen, any other insight into that? you can do things like, you know.
10:36:18 You could have it be part of your ticketing so this is for events.
10:36:22 So if you're doing a ticket event you could say you know this will be recorded by purchasing the ticket you're giving permission, you know, for us to record you as an audience.
10:36:31 Member you know there's like ways that people do that there's a lot of language out there.
10:36:37 And then in terms of like live events, or other public spaces that people are walking through there's sort of this understanding of the accepted anticipated amount of privacy.
10:36:51 A person house. So an exit, and this is a little bit about common sense, and what you would like really be running up against if someone took offense like.
10:37:01 So Yeah, if you're out on church street for example, and you're filming people walking by fine, if you zoom in on one person and follow them while they're shopping, yeah, they're in a public space but that's
10:37:11 super creepy. So you have to think about what's the level of comfort and expectation of privacy.
10:37:21 Someone has an a public environment being captured, just moving about or being in an audience and clapping cool.
10:37:28 Getting a quick shot of a person reacting to an event.
10:37:31 Great staying on that person for a long time. not great.
10:37:38 This is not written. This is not legally, legally defined stuff.
10:37:42 This is just what I could say for a common sense recording.
10:37:45 I think that in general you want to get release forms for anyone who is going to be performing or interviewed appearing on camera where they are.
10:37:55 The subject, or a principal part of your content.
10:38:00 And then other than that, you know there's a lot of ways to do.
10:38:04 If you're doing a performance. the performers are probably also there's some way that you're probably already having some documentation and agreements with them.
10:38:12 This is just another piece to add, probably to some of your existing stuff that you're going to be recording this event.
10:38:19 One of the things you can add to that which is a little bit in that release form is where you're showing it.
10:38:26 You want to say that you're giving me permission to use it for promoting, and whatever you kind of can explain what you plan to do with it.
10:38:36 I think that people are more and more savvy about legal documents these days, and if you say you know, I get to use this forever and ever.
10:38:46 You know that is legally what a lawyer tells you.
10:38:48 They want to see. but you also just have to think about I'm using this in association with this production, this project, I'm gonna use it to promote it.
10:38:56 And whatever I need to do in relation to this project or to promote my organization.
10:39:02 That's the kind of language people you know you you kind of want to think about just like people know what they're getting into.
10:39:11 Basically
10:39:12 I think we have a couple other things that we can share, that I was going to share my screen.
10:39:20 And Ross, I added a slide, and maybe we can look at a couple other ones to add, regarding live streaming.
10:39:27 I'm gonna just mention this one real quick and then move to the next one.
10:39:29 So this is a video editing log sheet and i'm just saying this is the other type of sheet you have after you film less.
10:39:39 So for a live event more so for interviews or for assembling a film from a variety of sources.
10:39:44 This is where you're keeping track of what's happening in this in the recording, and you're making notes.
10:39:52 So if you interview someone, and in the first minute they answer the question.
10:39:56 But the third minute they answer it more the way you want it to be.
10:39:58 This is where you could say that's the one I want to use This really speeds up your editing time later.
10:40:05 So how do you encourage you to use log sheets?
10:40:08 So that's a lot of the documents we have in here.
10:40:12 I'm gonna jump over to the to talk a little bit about cameras in particular for livestream.
10:40:17 So this is actually copied from our live stream event that we did before, to talk a little bit about the types of camera you might want to use if you're streaming a performance or an event.
10:40:31 The thing. The fact is you can kind of use anyone but there's definitely some that are better for certain purposes than others.
10:40:41 A camcorder is definitely the most flexible you can Use it for lots of different things, and it has built in audio, though you don't really want to use the in-camera microphone it's set up to take
10:40:51 other microphones. Very well. you can use any microphone with a camcorder to, you know, professional quality.
10:41:01 Older microphones still work great, you know, really sturdy ones that are like handheld mics and things like that.
10:41:06 And then you can use it for any kind of event i'm going to talk a little bit about the encoder piece just to kind of.
10:41:14 I don't have that slide in here, right Now, But essentially when you're doing a live stream event, you have the input, device which is your camera, you have the sort of combining of things.
10:41:26 If you're adding stuff editing stuff in any way live like adding titles.
10:41:31 If you have audio coming in from a separate source that's all coming together, and some kind of device it's mixing it together.
10:41:41 Hey, Jen: Yeah check out the next slide there did you throw it in.
10:41:47 I don't see it I just tried to
10:41:56 Amazing that's cool on your screen share it's so confusing isn't it?
10:42:02 Okay, So we'll get we'll get to that in a hot second. Okay, there we go.
10:42:09 So i'm gonna go this and i'm gonna go back to the cameras. So this is what we're talking about.
10:42:11 We're talking about live streaming you got your camera Oh, that that's strange.
10:42:16 Let's change the color that there We go so we got your camera output your audio output. they're coming.
10:42:24 Your cameras, whatever you're recording whatever you're recording for audio.
10:42:29 If you have any graphics and titles like if you're using a laptop, you're combining it all together, either in the laptop or in some kind of switching device, then that is going to something called an
10:42:41 encoder that can be built in if you're doing Facebook or Youtube live.
10:42:46 If you're using software that is live streaming for you that is the encoder.
10:42:52 If you are using a camera and going to another source like live streaming to
10:43:00 Another website. you need a another device that's an encoder, and then that is going out into the world.
10:43:07 And when you're streaming you are in this case we're talking about streaming to the Internet, you're not broadcasting unless you're working with a organization that does that like us so this is your live path, and then
10:43:25 you want to choose, based on budget and what type of work you're doing these from these options.
10:43:34 So i' I talk a little bit about the camcorder there's also a Dslr.
10:43:38 So that's You know If you're not that familiar These are the cameras that are traditional used for photographs, but they also capture video.
10:43:47 They have removable lenses. So you can do really beautiful, different.
10:43:53 You could do a wide angle lens, you could do a telephotolines.
10:43:56 You can do all kinds of different effects with your lenses, but that isn't always what you want for a stage debt.
10:44:06 You might want to just get get it all You know the artistic piece is going to be secondary.
10:44:10 It does have some limitations like your twenty-minute recording is going to really be great for you.
10:44:18 If you're doing a two-hour service that also does not. Dslrs are notoriously, not good for capturing audio.
10:44:25 So you need an external audio device. I wanted to jump in for a second about the audio, for, like camcorder versus slr, like it looks like the camcorder is is you know, gonna be it gonna give you more
10:44:39 freedom than the Dslr. Well, and and with you know what you can plug in, and how you might record audio, but it also then depends on the encoder.
10:44:47 So you know, if you are working with an encoder that's like just on software on, like a laptop, then you need to get, you know your inputs there.
10:44:53 You might think I can Hdmi out of my camcorder, you know.
10:44:58 So I get my audio and my video over to my computer.
10:45:01 But that's not always necessarily the case some camcorders won't work as a as an input option.
10:45:08 It'll it'll it'll only send that stuff as an output.
10:45:13 Not as an input to another place. So like, for instance, when we use camcorders with our, you know, we could plug in Xlr inputs, we could still record to the camera.
10:45:23 You know, if you wanted to just record everything to a card that might be a really good thing to do.
10:45:27 If you you know, rather than recording a stream which is gonna be, you know.
10:45:31 Chopped up a little bit due to just bandwidth.
10:45:33 You know how much data it can, you know, send out the the streams like he hampered a little bit.
10:45:40 So you know, if you are recording an event and you do have a camcorder, maybe you want to record locally to the camcord.
10:45:47 You can get audio in that way, but you know might need to think about using an external audio source with the camcorder based on if you're streaming, and if you're encoded in support the output from the
10:45:56 camcorder with both audio and video in our workshops.
10:46:00 When we use a camcorder we're using our mics through a mixer into this like if we're doing something on zoom do camcorder to you know, an sdi out from the camcorder
10:46:13 that's the type of cable signal flow there and then that's the computer.
10:46:17 And then audio separately. So you know just a note that you know based on what parts you're plugging in
10:46:25 You know, some of these things might change, and again, always worth testing.
10:46:29 This is why an access center near you is really helpful.
10:46:33 They might have some of the equipment that you want to try before you buy.
10:46:37 But also, you know, you could also just work with an access center.
10:46:39 That can can hook you up with the right stuff that you need your project.
10:46:44 You know we're throughout the state of vermont pretty aware of this stuff.
10:46:48 So you know, you have an ongoing, event that that fits within the mission of your Access Center, that, being a non-commercial and locally focused program, you know. i'm sure reaching out to the folks there They'd be happy to
10:46:59 support you through some of these setups and provide you with gear.
10:47:03 So sometimes that just makes it more affordable for organizations. and plus.
10:47:06 You have the added bonus of you know the tech health tech support, and also the distribution through your center, too.
10:47:12 So just wanted to jump in with that yeah those are great points. I mean in general, you're gonna need some extra audio support for all any of these things.
10:47:23 So you know whether you're going to a mixing board or you're just seeing external microphones.
10:47:29 This is an additional piece of the budget that's really important to have
10:47:34 I definitely want to talk about Ptz cameras based on Laurie.
10:47:38 What you shared any anyone who's using a fixed space so for example, we use these.
10:47:44 These are remote, controlled cameras that are, you really can install them in a location.
10:47:55 So we do municipal meetings that's a big piece of what we do capturing meetings from beginning to end, and in a town hall, where all the meetings are being held, it's a great place to install
10:48:06 Ptz cameras, because then you can set them up at a few different angles.
10:48:11 So now you've got your multi-camera setup, and then it's all going to a laptop where you're going to be, and and a switcher there's some extra devices here But if you
10:48:22 are going to be routinely recording in the same space.
10:48:28 And you want a multi-camera setup.
10:48:30 This is a really great way to go, because you could train a few people on how to do the do it, and then but only need one person at a time.
10:48:41 A lot of our productions we have. A single person is going out and filming a meeting with these devices.
10:48:48 So it just is going to simplify things it's definitely going to cost more on the at the front end.
10:48:53 But it's something that could be very reliable and very, very comfortable to just have that setup ready to ready to rock every week.
10:49:04 It also requires an encoder. It does require some additional.
10:49:09 It requires additional audio recording. so you know again we're kind of saying the same thing again and again with all these cameras.
10:49:16 There's some slight differences, the last one being probably the most flexible, but also the most unpredictable.
10:49:24 In some ways is your phone. You can do streaming directly to an app like Facebook Youtube Twitter.
10:49:34 You can use a live stream from your phone you can use an internal mic. but you need an external mic.
10:49:43 It'll be much better quality you can do this pretty quickly and you could try it.
10:49:50 This is a great way to just try live streaming before you buy all this really expensive equipment.
10:49:55 See if the other parts of what you need for a live stream are going to work for you.
10:50:00 The location, the, you know, capacity for it. the reception of it.
10:50:05 Are people going to watch it? This is actually a really worthwhile question.
10:50:08 If you record it, or people going to watch it. Because if you put all this money into doing something remote and 2 people tune in, and you were hoping for a 100, Maybe you want to do things differently.
10:50:23 Maybe you want to have outdoor events or you know think about these kind of options, or or have something that's very much about engagement, but not something where people just passively watch.
10:50:33 I think that's just very much we're considering before you buy a lot of this equipment, so trying it out of the phone is a great way to do something.
10:50:43 The main problem with the phone is it's a phone or a tablet.
10:50:45 It's. it's got other stuff going on you've got emails.
10:50:48 You've got most of these devices are assigned to a human.
10:50:51 A person has the account for it, and so you just kind of run into Gotchas, where you know someone calls while you're filming, or you know it.
10:51:02 Also. they also tend to. You know the batteries get eaten it pretty quick on these, or you know just all those general issues that come with phones and tablets are going to be coming now to your livestream package.
10:51:14 But I think these are really we're gonna share these slides.
10:51:17 I think these are really good things for you to start thinking about. in terms of the actual devices, you know we could.
10:51:23 We can share the ones we have. but I would encourage you.
10:51:26 You know the thing about technologies is new stuff every 3 months.
10:51:31 There's something new out there that is working better than the thing before it, and I think live streaming is a particular interest for people.
10:51:38 So this is a place where the technology is continuing to advance. and I would really encourage you to just kind of do some Google research like, read some reviews of products when you're getting ready to buy because things do change even modeled a
10:51:55 model year. With some of these things it's ptt cameras specifically are like getting more and more affordable and easier to use.
10:52:05 Remember a decade ago we bought a set of ptz cameras for events, and it was it was incredibly expensive, and it took a lot of time to set up.
10:52:12 Now they're kind of just like you plug them in and even just go for it.
10:52:18 And you know, as was mentioned earlier, they're so good, for you know consistent routine locations, cause you can install them, and if you have a small crew or no crew, one person you know you can have one person operate all those
10:52:30 cameras, you know, if you need somebody operating at camcorder or Dslr camera, unless it's just a fixed position.
10:52:37 You don't touch it really. or you just have like a crew of one person just using that camera.
10:52:41 But if you want multiple angles like laurie you're your setup Ptz cameras are great.
10:52:45 They could be really expensive. but they're becoming more and more affordable all the time.
10:52:52 And they're honestly so cool they're just cool that's the biggest takeaway from the people
10:53:12 Ptz Yes, it's a it's a it means pan tilt zoom.
10:53:17 So those are the movement functions that you can operate remotely.
10:53:22 For that camera. So, Pan being side to side, tilt up and down, and zoom in and out.
10:53:27 Movements. So it means that Yep, as Jen just detailed there in the Chat Pan tilt zoom So you know you can mount it, you know, up on the wall, out of reach on a cable down to some controller
10:53:39 multiple cameras switch, to which content camera there's usually like a joystick thing, you know.
10:53:45 You can use in that way. so really cool for for spaces that have multiple angles that need to be captured multiple directions from areas where you can't get people either because you know, you can't fit a person
10:54:01 there can't get them to the location it's up on the ceiling, or whatever and and or you don't have the staff, you know if you're thinking about sometimes that's a good thing to think about too,
10:54:12 you know. they might have a larger upfront cost. but you know that requires less people.
10:54:17 So if you're in an organization that would typically staff in events, you know you know, you might be able to think about the long term the Pcc cameras pay themselves off that way.
10:54:29 So, although i'm a big fan of collaborating with people just machines, that is a truth.
10:54:38 There, but it's a good thing to Remember is that if you got a Ptz camera setup.
10:54:46 Then you can moderate your zoom and be maybe chatting with people and engaging with people in other ways, while the cameras doing the capturing for you.
10:54:53 So you know, I think for a lot of these things as I was saying before, about are you gonna if you make it?
10:54:58 Who's going to come who's going to watch it If you have a way that people can engage and are responded to.
10:55:04 That is a really worthwhile part of your work, you know.
10:55:09 Then people are coming and feeling like they're part of something and not just a viewer.
10:55:13 It's so easy to turn something off or not show up at all, you know you're like.
10:55:17 Oh, i'm going to go that thing online. Oh, it happened.
10:55:20 Oh, I missed it, you know. I think that and Lori. I know you mentioned that you were going to try and have people engaging.
10:55:27 That's really important, and I think makes a really big difference in your online events
10:55:52 So we could pivot now to some camera stuff, more camera stuff like talking about some of the elements of videography.
10:56:02 Ross, Could I pass it to you can you share your screen let's dive in.
10:56:11 What should we take a look at? here? We got a number of things.
10:56:18 White balance is a good one it's also next let's go there.
10:56:23 Have you ever seen something that looks like this a bread and puppet?
10:56:31 But specifically the color here. So if we were to, I wish I could like just put something over this.
10:56:39 But oh, if you just look at let's say the bottom half of this, the audience, everybody looks kind of cool, you know. in color.
10:56:49 Yeah blue toned lot of blue shirts, a lot of white shirts that look a little blue.
10:56:56 So you know, comparatively the the orchestra looks really warm, red tones orange tones.
10:57:05 Sure we've got like the wood there of the instruments that really, you know, looks really rich in color, really warm and color.
10:57:13 But also, if you look at people's skin tones, and if you look at the front of the stage versus, the back wall, we can assume that they're not exactly the same white but clearly they're very different whites in
10:57:24 the recorded image. This is because of the color temperature so this is a challenging shot, because you have 2 different light sources.
10:57:31 If you've. ever noticed. you know midday sun morning light, the eve, the afternoon glow, the evening glow of the sun itself always changes color.
10:57:40 But you know our our bolds you know we know the fluorescent bold.
10:57:44 There's often a really stark and like bright but like cool light emitting light.
10:57:57 You know, if you think of like the fluorescent bulbs you might find in a large building like an office building or a school.
10:58:07 And then, you know, some bulbs that we might have at home might be a little bit warmer, I know, like I nice.
10:58:12 I like a nice warm glow to a light if i'm, you know, in my chair and reading a book so different color temperatures when you buy aifold, you can often see it's measuring kelvin
10:58:26 K. you know the the temperature of the bulb.
10:58:32 And basically videography, photography. None of that works right without like coming into the camera.
10:58:42 And the temperature of that light is gonna hit the hit. The hit the tip of your of your camera and and tell it what the what the image is.
10:58:52 But now are the cameras are able to, you know, capture images from, you know, any color temperature.
10:58:56 But the camera doesn't necessarily know what that color temperature is They're getting pretty smart.
10:59:02 They can detect what's white and adjust from there so that's going to piggyback on the the the original thought and process here, which is known as white balance.
10:59:11 And it's if you define what white is to the camera it'll recognize, you know, what that color is, and adjust other colors accordingly.
10:59:19 Sometimes it's a little off right. because like what it recognizes as white white, you know we might have like an egg shell white, which is like a little bit you know.
10:59:28 What is that? Like A little denser and warmer, little darker, more of a gray?
10:59:33 It might not exactly expose that correctly, So you might need to do a little financing with a specific color.
10:59:39 Temperatures. but it's something you want to do before any time you hit record in a space.
10:59:47 You might start to recognize what the color temperature should be set to the camera by already.
10:59:50 Still be on that setting. If you're doing this in a space that's pretty consistent, and it's not a changing light for a room that doesn't have a lot of influence from windows where the sun's light will be changing but
11:00:00 the interior light will stay the same you might find that over time you know it's already locked in.
11:00:06 But you always want to make sure this, because, individually, both of these halves of this image look a little off, like the orchestra is a little too warm, Right?
11:00:15 Everybody looks a little flushed in their skin tone.
11:00:19 And and the foreground is really white really like too bright.
11:00:26 Too cool like you start to see bless definition in some of the shirts of folks.
11:00:34 Here especially, you know, some patterned shirts and whatnot.
11:00:38 So in both of these don't work necessarily on their own.
11:00:45 But then together it also just looks so so weird it's true an event like this.
11:00:51 You can always control it right. This is probably a space that has if I if I'm right, has a natural light as part of the you know the larger space.
11:01:02 But if you are doing the if you have your own event venue and you're setting things up yourselves, and you can control the temperature of the lights.
11:01:12 Think about how your audience lighting and your stage lighting work together, especially if you're going to have it on.
11:01:18 And then, if you're setting up lights anywhere else, this is where that location scotting goes in, you know hand at hand again, how much natural lights in the space that's going to affect you are there lights can you turn them
11:01:27 off, you know someplace that you might be filming you can't control the lighting around you. and so can you bring lights that will work with the lighting that's already.
11:01:40 There. there's a lot of led lights we have some here that we've shared me.
11:01:44 I can grab one again that's they can change color temperature.
11:01:49 So you can actually try and match the environment. that you're in which is a really really handy thing
11:01:58 Yeah, and So the process of doing this white balance and finding the color temperature is typically to figure out where that button is.
11:02:08 The menu option is on your camera. but Then you know reflecting the main light source of where your subject is back into the lens, you know, thinking that is a mirror. but maybe it's a piece of paper could just be a piece of
11:02:21 paper. get that in the center. Maybe zoom in a little bit.
11:02:26 Hit that button. The camera will do an adjustment, but also some of these cameras pretty good.
11:02:30 With the auto adjustment. They you know, as I mentioned earlier, might not get it exact.
11:02:35 But if you can then tweak it a little bit it's good, but on the fly auto is also really really helpful.
11:02:40 But yeah, Jin was mentioning sometimes it's outside you can control so
11:02:50 And sometimes you might say, I can fix that later. I can change that in post.
11:02:54 But now, if we think about that, let's take this bottom half of this image, which is, you know, too cool.
11:03:04 If we were to honestly, that would probably change just fine in post-production.
11:03:07 But sometimes what happens when you do edit color in an editing software is like, let's say you know it's a really easy example.
11:03:16 If we're thinking about like you know bringing up darks or bringing you know, down highlights we're changing shadows or highlights, you know, Sometimes if something's like really overblown in color or like temperature or just
11:03:35 the If you try to bring that down, then what's dark will become darker, too, unless you have you know more advanced software Sometimes, you know, you can really get that fine detail you know, relying on a post-production software to fix some
11:03:48 of the mistakes from production. and again this is a challenging situation.
11:03:54 So I wouldn't call this a mistake but you know relying on posture software sometimes, you know you're gonna give something up to fix something always always best to to aim to get that you know the the most
11:04:09 complete representation of your your shot in terms of video and audio.
11:04:16 In the moment, and then, if you want to change things and add effects later, you can do that.
11:04:24 But shouldn't aim to try to fix anything I think a good example of something is really hard to fix is if you've got light like a window here, and then here you've got an indoor light that's yellow and it's on
11:04:38 the same subject. it's harder to correct on the same subject than it is like that where you almost could draw a line and have a color adjustment for the top, and for the bottom.
11:04:48 If you were using more advanced software we can mask it it's very hard to do that with a single person and half their face.
11:04:57 So that's the kind of stuff that's challenging that you know definitely worth thinking about.
11:05:03 Hey, Richard, go ahead. Yeah. So I just thought maybe I would share kind of what I'm gonna be i'm planning on doing this weekend.
11:05:15 You know I work for an organization that is having an event at the Echo Lady Center with guest speakers that I want to record.
11:05:25 And I don't know if you're familiar with how that's set up there.
11:05:29 But you know the the the room, the big room where you know It's like a presenter would stand has a big bank of humongous windows open to the lake and and this is going to be in the evening when the sun is going
11:05:47 down in in the west Right? no, they have lots of lights there.
11:05:52 But I obviously have this changing light situation happening there's possibility of just closing all of the shades to block out the sun.
11:06:04 And just use internal light. But I don't know you know people. Other people might not be happy about not being able to see the lake. You know that kind of thing But I don't know why do you do you have any thoughts,
11:06:15 or questions about a scenario like that
11:06:25 So it's, not really doing an adjustment depending on what? Oh, it kind of did there at the end, depending on what you're recording on and with come to keep in mind one if the person's really really
11:06:39 backlit. There's a lot of light coming in sometimes if the cameras like to an auto mode.
11:06:44 It might like really dampens the amount of light that's coming in might use like an internal like a neutral density filter, which is like their own sunglasses.
11:06:54 On it right? So if your person's not really well lit from the front facing the camera.
11:07:01 You know, from the cameras perspective. Then they're darker too, they might become more of a silhouette.
11:07:04 We might see them as like somebody giving it in their new interview anonymously, or something that's definitely a challenge.
11:07:11 Another challenge that you might have is the color temperature changing over time.
11:07:17 But let me talk about the first one first, because, as the sun will set, the color temperature changes as it pushes through more atmosphere.
11:07:25 And but the first thing one thing you can do yeah, you could.
11:07:29 Yeah. shut off. everybody's view of full lake which they might not be too happy about.
11:07:35 Another would be to get tight on them a tighter shot on.
11:07:41 The person means that like you know if it's really close to their face.
11:07:43 There's less influence from the outside the background light right that's coming into the camera and taking over and and silhouetting them from behind back, letting them really harshly tighter shots will work so
11:07:55 spotlights on them getting them to stand that I mean that's that's the best thing you can do is.
11:08:01 You can just say, Hey, that is not the worst angle that's better.
11:08:04 Can you kind of stay over there and look at me this way that way?
11:08:08 You know they can see the audience. They can talk to the audience.
11:08:10 People can still, you know, maybe just their heads a little bit and look at the look at the lake.
11:08:15 But just positioning is really key and so you know definitely It's a good thing to get in there and kind of do some post or sorry pre-production scouting with just to see you know what the setup might
11:08:27 look like, maybe get somebody. Just try to replicate it so that way. you're aware and informed, and then share that with the person you know.
11:08:33 Best thing to do is, say, I want you to look good.
11:08:36 We want to get you represented. well here for people in the space, but also afterwards, at the same time as it's live, you know, coming from that angle.
11:08:46 People can you know really get behind the fact that you're you're trying to help them.
11:08:49 You're trying to make this work for both of you you You're not just, you know, trying to micromanage their whole thing there.
11:08:56 But there's there's a real effect from maybe some of these changes.
11:09:01 And then in case of the sun changing that's a tricky one, Sometimes an auto white balanced camera will throughout the course of a recording, recognize changes in light and make adjustments accordingly.
11:09:13 Sometimes they don't. You gotta know your camera newer cameras will, during a recording.
11:09:16 Do that. Some will just use whatever the auto white balance was at the beginning of their recording, and just stick with it.
11:09:23 If you are having a camera, that's like that or you specifically chose a wipe balance setting, then none of those will change throughout the recording. and that's when you want to be aware of that and it's not something that you necessarily can change on the
11:09:38 fly during a recording. so you might at that point need to find moments to stop and re-wide balance which can add a challenge.
11:09:46 So. you know an auto white balance that will adjust throughout the recording camera is is great and probably the best.
11:09:53 But Sometimes there are those moments where you can recognize that they are taking a break.
11:09:59 Maybe They're maybe they're taking a drink of water or It's a transition between speakers, and you can just cut the stream.
11:10:06 Cut the camera record just for a moment. if you know you're doing that, You know you have a lot of people watching.
11:10:13 You might wanna think about how you might bring up a slide.
11:10:15 This is will be back in a second, or you know, if you know, you might want to just let people know if you can.
11:10:21 But yeah, I didn't event once. on church street at sunset, so we went from, you know, sunlight outside to the lighting inside, and I had to find those moments to stop
11:10:34 It was fine, you know. And then I cut the video and post, and, you know, made it really clean.
11:10:40 Nobody really would have known. So Kit Richard can ask you a question.
11:10:43 Is this an event that you're I I didn't catch quite what the uses of the recording
11:10:53 Yeah. So this is you know, for dismissal we have an annual celebration.
11:10:59 We have, you know, like presentation of a war. We have a guest speaker that kind of stuff.
11:11:04 So we want. I wanna record it so that we can, you know put it on our website, you know.
11:11:10 You know, get sections of it, maybe that we would put on Facebook whatever
11:11:18 And I was planning on using, you know, ux 1 80, you know camcorder, you know, borrowing that from you guys to do that with so great, you know.
11:11:29 It seems like that seemed like that made sense so I think The other thing to think about is as we're also saying incredibly hard to control what the sun's going to do.
11:11:39 If you do have it set to an auto auto, white balance and auto exposure.
11:11:46 Better manually focusing that is going to be correcting as you go mostly, if you can't stop to adjust, or but if you're thinking about you're cutting it apart, I Think the main thing you want to consider the
11:11:58 worst case scenario. is. if you were shooting one entire piece that then you were cutting chunks out of and rearranging it.
11:12:05 So it was like bright dark. bright dark, or like blue yellow blue yellow, more right if you're not doing that, if you're using shorter pieces, or you're gonna you know if you're using shorter pieces probably no one
11:12:17 will notice you'll know but you probably it'll be subtle in his life, right like changes when you're in natural light.
11:12:24 So it's not it's not horrible because it will be happening gradually.
11:12:28 If you're using a whole piece if you're using jump cuts between different times, you'll notice it.
11:12:34 So you might want to think about some B-roll that you want to record.
11:12:36 That is either of the space itself or you know, or cutaways to photos and other video about the organization, so that you can just sort of cover up that those shifts
11:12:54 I'd Say, if you were doing a live stream only like it's just going to be happening.
11:12:58 Everyone's gonna be going experiencing it together and as long as you got some auto, so it's not getting so dark you can't see or really radically changing the quality of the image.
11:13:07 It's going to be very subtle how it's happening
11:13:21 Is this sparking anything for anyone else regarding your events that you're thinking about?
11:13:27 I'd love to I think hearing your scenarios is really helpful for us to both hopefully answer your questions, and also it might be helpful for everyone else.
11:13:37 It's giving us. like kind of a specific situation to think about otherwise we're we are happy to share slides and some of the other stuff with you. but we'd really love to answer your questions
11:13:56 We're right now. we're doing our services mostly on zoom a couple of years.
11:14:02 We've only had 2 services it's a it's a congregation that I work for so it's like church services.
11:14:11 And we haven't gone back into the sanctuary. Yet, because we have such an online presence now, and twice last summer we tried to combine, having, you know, recording in the sanctuary and broadcasting that online and we
11:14:28 just we don't have the the setup or the knowledge of how to do it.
11:14:33 So we're only able to attempt it a few times and we haven't tried again since, but I mean our minister and our board members.
11:14:43 They would really like to, you know, be able to put out professional looking videos and sharing online everything.
11:14:54 But we need to buy the equipment first. We we were trying with like couple of laptops.
11:15:02 People had, you know, just missing this little web cams that they would bring in, and we'd try using that.
11:15:11 Yeah, we have a lot to figure out, and and they wanna buy Tvs to put up on the wall.
11:15:19 So this would all be linked into those 2. so people could be watching the people online.
11:15:27 Yeah, I I think One of the interesting things about this is that you can start to assemble the stuff piecemeal.
11:15:32 You don't need to go for everything all at once you know a single camera that's really nice set it nicely positioned, you know, to capture the majority.
11:15:42 Of what you're doing in a good solid microphone, maybe a wireless lab for the person who's primarily speaking, or something. that's you know, set up a podium or lectern so people can
11:15:55 yeah, expect that. that's where they'll sounds really good, you know, building some of those systems and kind of adapt to just the smaller setup rather than trying to have so many different cameras all at once you know that
11:16:09 kind of stuff can be really that can get you started once you're close with that, you know what would be like to add in another camera?
11:16:18 Where would we put it but yeah it's a it's a it's a good journey that you're on there setting all that stuff up so that'll be really cool, and then, depending on where you are reach out to your
11:16:30 local access center, and they might be able to assist too. I know we work with a lot of or organizations like your own at the media factory.
11:16:39 So john's very vermont we have a really good sound system.
11:16:46 Good speakers that connect to a the thing is I don't know the technical.
11:16:52 So I don't even know what the thing is called but it's got lots of buttons on it, and the person that set it up for us.
11:16:58 That had all the knowledge he passed away a couple of years ago, so I just know how to turn it on, and turn a few of the adjustment so that you can hear through it as far as looking it to more equipment.
11:17:13 We don't know how to sounds like sounds like a Sounds like a mixer that you're working with you know, looking at that
11:17:31 Are you looking to get that to a live stream, or do you have that stuff?
11:17:34 Or is it right now only hooked up to just the internal space?
11:17:38 Or is it online? Is it hooked up to? Are you streaming that audio through?
11:17:41 That makes sense. We have like 3 different microphones, and it we have 2 big speakers on each side of the room.
11:17:51 And then you said that you have an online presence or are you we're not using the sound system because we we're all doing it from our homes on zoom Gotcha right now that's what we're doing
11:18:03 zoom. Yeah, what is in the sanctuary? right? right?
11:18:11 Yeah, Well, that can be done there's an I there's a product that that we've used There's a mixer.
11:18:22 I'm gonna throw it into the chat that we like there's a They make a bunch of these it's the pre sonas mixers.
11:18:30 Those mixers. You take the cables, you plug them into the mixer.
11:18:34 Set the right vault audio levels you might be able to replicate.
11:18:37 You know what's going on with your current setup in terms of you know, the relative balance of these i'm assuming this is a thing to have sliders or knobs Yeah, cool right on so Yeah, that you know you
11:18:49 might be able to kind of match that to a precaution, this mixer.
11:18:52 Nice thing about the precise mixer is that it's got pretty clearly labeled A USB.
11:18:57 Output, and then you can just plug that into a computer.
11:19:00 And then, like you know if you're in zoom right now you go to the bottom left, and you go to your microphone settings.
11:19:04 That carrot menu. There you have a bunch of microphones.
11:19:07 Maybe that you can select you plug in a pre send us mixer to a computer that's running zoom.
11:19:13 We'll see that mixer and you can use that and then boom!
11:19:18 That whole setup is now going to both your pas that are set up in the space for the people benefiting there.
11:19:23 But also then going to the people online too, it's a it's a cool thing, and they're not prohibitively expensive.
11:19:31 I don't think you know couple 100 bucks but for a mixer.
11:19:34 That's that's a solid deal and it might really open up the access to your
11:19:41 What you're doing. So yeah, yeah, the one that we have is about the size of a laptop.
11:19:46 Cool. Yeah, these are just about the same too doesn't sound like a very large mixer, so like you signed a look into
11:19:53 And then, if you're buying, from you know some place locally, or somebody you can talk to, they might be able to assist with how you might set that up to
11:20:00 But yeah, there's a access center and see transfer kingdom access.
11:20:05 It might be worth reaching out to them, too. to see if they can.
11:20:07 Can assist kingdom access Tv I think right that's same sounds very rich in, I think.
11:20:14 So. yeah, and you know another thing to think about regarding that is
11:20:19 I might i'm sorry I just have wait for a sec is, you know, working with your access center.
11:20:24 You can actually create content for the channel there. you know we have a lot of faith based shows here.
11:20:31 They. And And so one of the things you think about is having like a studio to do some pre-recorded stuff, and that might be another way to sort of extend the work. you're doing and reach people in a few different
11:20:45 ways, So you could be creating shorter, maybe, like shorter motivational pieces that are really about being on Tv, not about the audience.
11:20:55 And then you could be playing those, you know that could be part of the sermon.
11:21:03 That could be a totally separate thing. that could be just on the website like you're saying this idea, you know that's one of the things that's great about community media is our public access channels really it's wide open for talking
11:21:15 about things and airing them as well. in the local community.
11:21:27 Yeah, thank you. looking at the chat here.
11:21:36 But Judy, Yes, thanks for bringing this question back up.
11:21:40 Judy shared this in our We reached out to some folks to see if we had some questions before today.
11:21:48 So thanks for sharing this again, Judy, looking at this a little bit in the background here and before our meeting today.
11:21:57 Yeah, I can talk about this a little bit so first let's you know.
11:22:03 Talk about the question of online white birds for physical boards.
11:22:06 Right. so like Jen and I are sharing prepared slides and whatnot, you know, and we're here in our space.
11:22:12 So jin's a huge fan of jan Van Boards. I know i'll i'll pass these in a second.
11:22:18 But a physical board Let's say this painting behind it was a physical board, right? it's kind of out of focus.
11:22:24 You might not read my handwriting well it's in the background.
11:22:26 I'll have to go away from my microphone source because this is only gonna go so far there's some limitations to a physical whiteboard in a space.
11:22:34 Of course it's nice to like for the instructor perhaps, to be using a physical board, but for people who are, you know, coming in spectating and trying to join in to that conversation.
11:22:44 It's a challenge for them often how to focus small hard to read. you know. sacrificing one visual or audio element for the sake of another in terms of the board or the speaker it's
11:22:58 a challenge. best way to do that is to have a dedicated camera just for a whiteboard.
11:23:03 But even then that's an added level and complexity that I wouldn't really go into online whiteboards way cooler.
11:23:10 There are so many kinds. There are some that just give you freedom of, like a canvas blank canvas.
11:23:15 You can write, you can type, you can put shapes and whatnot.
11:23:19 Is when the jin likes jamboards i'll pass it here.
11:23:21 What are these all about? Thank you, This is one of my favorite things in the world?
11:23:27 I love jamboards, and i'm always trying to advocate for using them.
11:23:31 So i'm actually going to show you one that we have here. I'm going to share my screen.
11:23:35 So you can see what's great about him number one What's great about them.
11:23:39 They're part of Google, so they're free you already have it.
11:23:43 If you have a Google account and you're already using the G.
11:23:45 Suite type stuff. it's just called jamboard jambore, dot Google dot com, and it's really easy to set one up.
11:23:53 You just share. you make a board, and you share that link with everyone in your audience, and then you can see like this is just an example.
11:24:06 People can make stickies, and you can Then type into it and that's a new sticky notes, and you can arrange them.
11:24:17 So you know, people are like. So we used this for brainstorming with our high School film Club.
11:24:20 They're coming up with all these ideas that They want to think about, and they're all different people throwing these up there.
11:24:28 You can change the colors if you want to color code them.
11:24:32 You can also do things like drawing directly onto the board itself.
11:24:36 You can add images, you know there's a lot of things. you can do with this that are really fun and flexible.
11:24:47 And then you can have multiple boards. So you know this is our second board for the same group of people, and you can see here we're starting to talk about location scouting.
11:24:56 And examples of some of the imagery. you know people are interested in working with.
11:25:00 And so this is just a really fun you don't know enough has to download anything you don't have to have any special access, You know you don't have to have Google yourself when you're sharing with other people you have
11:25:12 the Google. But then, like everyone else who's coming the Google, everyone else who's joining you does not need to be to have a Google account to to type into this.
11:25:26 So it's it's pretty great I can't say enough cool things about it.
11:25:32 There's Tons of other stuff out there, but in a way like just the simplicity of it, and the flexibility of it is great.
11:25:38 It's just a big old whiteboard but there is lots of other stuff out there that folks use.
11:25:45 I think a really good place to look is actually in resources for teachers There's a lot of things teachers use that are really geared towards them.
11:25:55 I'd say there's a lot of them are enterprise solutions with a pretty pricey, you know. price time on them because they're trying to get a whole school system to like invest in it.
11:26:08 Thank you. Ross is sharing a couple of things here there's definitely other things out there, and I just I can't recommend anything at the moment other than jam board, because once we started using jam board it just was like the easiest
11:26:21 most direct thing to do. We could have other people who had Google set up their own.
11:26:28 If we were like doing a workshop we could have someone else be in charge of it.
11:26:30 It just has a nice flexibility to it. So if people are kind of old old school, and used to writing on the chalkboard, you know.
11:26:41 And so in this case you would type. Yeah, is that it? Yup: So you just you, you type.
11:26:47 You could also hand draw with the like little drawing tool.
11:26:51 What I was thinking of it's he to this one person in our group.
11:26:56 He, he's a musician. Yeah, and so he teaches classes to the kids.
11:27:03 So we were thinking that when he writes something on the board he could then transfer it to them and or they could interact.
11:27:14 Somehow I think this is great, because then they could respond to it, which is really nice.
11:27:19 The other thing is, if you're using these little sticky notes and typing. you could copy paste that out.
11:27:26 So you know It's still text for anyone who sees it So then you can retain, like if you took notes in, and people made a list of stuff you want to hold on to It's I don't know that you can export
11:27:35 you could screenshot it. but you could actually take all the text out and put in another document which is handy.
11:27:43 Okay, Yeah, that's kind of what I was trying to Think is how could he capture the whole board and send it to the students?
11:27:51 Yeah, I think this is a pretty good thing. you know I know my my child's definitely using chromebooks and having access to all the Google you know, apps, you can share a jam board like I shared that link to the
11:28:02 one you can I could share the actual jam board that we're working on with all of you, and then you would have that file.
11:28:11 I guess you have a link. If you had Google apps you would have it.
11:28:18 Yeah, I also wanna share that, you know, for a musician.
11:28:24 And, for instance, you know, they might want to annotate things that are not just text.
11:28:29 They might want to draw staff and hey, some music up there you know something that you can't just use with the characters on a keyboard might be a little trickier.
11:28:37 There is a whiteboard option in zoom, and I was just looking up.
11:28:41 If you go to screen share there is a there's a whiteboard option like this, you know you can draw and whatnot.
11:28:49 So what's really interesting Here is i'm using a mouse. It doesn't feel very natural right but you could purchase a device known as a tablet, a waycom tablet is a Co.
11:29:00 A popular brand w A. C. O. M. that'll plug in like any USB peripheral to your computer like a keyboard or a mouse, and be recognized by the computer.
11:29:10 And what that is is essentially a blank pad where you have a pen, you can use the pen to draw and and and write on things right on the board.
11:29:21 There and so that might be really interesting it's not something that I've done before.
11:29:29 I mean i've used wakem tablets, but specifically that application within the software of the whiteboard.
11:29:35 So I don't know what it what is it like to export anything that's created in that space, whether or not that would download as a an image, or if you can copy the text out of there.
11:29:44 But it's native to this application so it's probably worth just exploring that a little bit, and maybe experimenting with just your mouse at first, and then, if that looks like a good option for you thinking about grabbing one of
11:29:56 those tablets. So that way they can feel pretty natural.
11:30:01 There if they're doing something outside of text right you know it's just great this You're right.
11:30:07 He's gonna be doing staff's notes and things like that and what would be really cool is if they could interact with the kids, and they could draw as well.
11:30:21 So, you know
11:30:25 Yeah, and with and also with jambore you know he could upload an image of like musical bars, you know, and then be drawing onto that, I think you And there's definitely i'm seeing other apps out there most
11:30:38 of them have more of a cost associated with them but there's lot.
11:30:43 There's also specific things for smartboards for music okay But I couldn't recommend, you know, particularly say one or the other would be great definitely playing around jam board or something that's free.
11:30:57 Just to start and see how the reception is and you know how it's working.
11:31:02 Is greater with zoom, and then you know thinking about there's something specific that the teacher would want to drill down into
11:31:50 These are great questions, so please keep them in common mind here i'm taking a quick look at our slides as well just to see if we want to share some other stuff.
11:32:02 I think that it would probably be great to talk a little bit about microphones.
11:32:10 And i'm gonna share that let's say yeah because I know this is something that we keep talking about.
11:32:27 How important it is to have a microphone an external microphone or an audio input when you're doing live streaming, talking a little bit about the types of microphones.
11:32:43 You could use, I think, is really important. there's lots of great things out there.
11:32:44 You definitely get what you pay for with microphones, and many people tell you that that is what makes your video watchable is the is the audio.
11:32:54 The quality of the audio. so if you're planning to record a event where you want to pick up a lot of different sounds.
11:33:06 A shotgun mic is the type of microphone you'd probably want to pack to capture its directional. but it is also not something you hold up close. so it's not really for one person.
11:33:18 It's for multiple people. it's for a larger area If you're trying to record a single speaker an event a lavalier mic is really, or your best bet that's what Ross is wearing right now is like
11:33:31 a is kind of like a lavaier mic it's the headset, you know.
11:33:34 A phone headset is a lava there mic essentially It's a microphone that is really close to your body.
11:33:39 It's picking up one person speaking and probably the better It is it's filtering out the sounds around you.
11:33:47 So you're only hearing one person that is great if you have one person.
11:33:51 If you have a couple of people speaking like on stage, you know, like panel, you could have everyone have a microphone of their own, and then put it through a mixer. You know.
11:34:02 Mix it all together. You could also think about a handheld mic, which is something you're passing back and forth.
11:34:11 So i'm at using a handheld mic right Now, for my audio, because they can be really great at picking up a voice.
11:34:19 You don't have to be right on top of like attached to your body.
11:34:21 You just want to pretty close to your body so that's you know musical performances are often using a microphone like that.
11:34:29 It's also called a stick mic they're often on a mic stand, but you can also just pass it. hold it out in front of you you see that a lot of sort of person on the street kind of interviews use a handheld
11:34:41 microphone. but they can also pick up a lot of sound you know, if you're doing a little adjusting of them.
11:34:53 So those are kind of some of your main considerations I think There's other.
11:34:57 There's other sort of specifics like desktop there's a desktop microphone which is sort of a flat panel that you've probably seen these for like conference calls and things like that and those can
11:35:10 work with video. You just need to be probably figuring out How you're in putting it to either your camera or to the mixer.
11:35:20 But those are great for that sort of table, you know, around table a group of people sitting around a single space.
11:35:31 We have here lighting nexthale our dappers.
11:35:34 We? Just so we threw in some of our like favorite you know slides, and so lighting the xlr adapters is just.
11:35:41 It's any adapters are important to consider the type of microphone you're using may not you know pair directly with your camera or your your sound board without an adapter.
11:35:57 And that's an additional cost. it's a Really, good thing to just have a bag of adapters of various kinds that you that you routinely need have multiples I highly.
11:36:07 Remember, recommend, if you can afford it, to get more than one of the type of adapter you need, because they tend to be one of those places where stuff could go wrong with the cable, and you just want to make sure that it's all working,
11:36:19 really, smoothly,
11:36:29 It's probably update this slide to not say just lightning texts are but just Xlr adapters because we were mentioning the Priestonus mixers.
11:36:35 How those will adapt to USB lightning specifically in apple.
11:36:40 You know an apple thing xlr it's another one of those acronyms it's a ground left right, so it's a cable that'll run a grounded stereo recording you'll
11:36:52 find that most microphones will use an xlr cable to to transmit the sound between devices.
11:37:03 It's just kind of a you know industry standard cable and that's the acronym.
11:37:07 But if it means ground left, left, right fun fact and those have been around for a long time, and they're still considered.
11:37:17 Probably your highest quality audio connection so one of the cool things is that there's a lot of them out there, And as I started saying earlier and older, an older microphone that's kind of heavy duty, and you look at like that's just
11:37:31 kind of an old like. it might be great. It might be better than a flimsy new mic that costs, you know, a bunch of money.
11:37:38 So it's worth poking around and you're in the supply closets, and seeing, you know, if there was some investment in Av.
11:37:47 In the past there might still be some totally functional microphones that you could use at least to get started
11:38:02 I think the other thing we could say about microphones is sort of the same thing we were saying about cameras, and you know, regarding performances.
11:38:11 You're you're making decisions about what you want to capture, and also possibly setting up a space that you can continue to use.
11:38:20 And you know if you've can run microphones over a head, you know, like they have for theater productions that could be great.
11:38:27 If you're gonna be using this stage set in a routine basis.
11:38:32 You could have microphones. Yeah, honestly, the microphone I have here on the table for these workshops is always here on this table.
11:38:40 So while this seems like a portable situation, because I do.
11:38:44 These workshops, and not just myself. Several of us use this station.
11:38:49 I put my laptop here, but then I just plug it in, and I plug into a keyboard a mouse and a microphone that are all right here for me to use, and having this setup and actually it's really
11:39:02 amazing this tables on wheels, so I can move it into another room if I need to.
11:39:05 But I have all this stuff I need to do a zoom workshop like that.
11:39:10 So while we're talking about stages and big events and like setting up your gear in a good way, actually even a desktop setup can be done in such a way that it's really easy to plug into it's really
11:39:22 easy for people to use, and this is just become you know over a year, 2 years now of doing zoom events.
11:39:30 You know we've gotten this down to a science of what equipment.
11:39:34 We need, and you'll be the same You know once you start doing stuff on a routine basis.
11:39:38 You're going to figure out what works best for you and hopefully be able to have a setup that makes it really easy to just jump into the events
11:40:03 Thanks for joining us, Judy,
11:40:12 I'm muted. we definitely have time to take some more questions, but I also will be happy to talk a little bit about maybe.
11:40:19 Aspect ratios with you all because I think that's not a bad thing to think about.
11:40:26 It might not apply that much, but I think it's good to know it.
11:40:31 Alright i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it here.
11:40:35 We go,
11:40:40 I just want to talk about this briefly, because I know that a lot of the conversations have been about event documentation.
11:40:48 You might decide that while you're documenting your event and you have this like 1 h recording, you want to take some of it and share it on social media.
11:41:00 And this is where things get a little bit dicey.
11:41:03 Also this particular slide is stretched which is really frustrating the heck out of me, because all of these images are just sort of off.
11:41:14 So sorry about that I don't know If i'm going to be able to talk about it.
11:41:18 It's going to be so distracting But we're gonna just have to live with it.
11:41:21 So this is a great example of what can go wrong with aspect ratios.
11:41:25 This is a slide that I think was a 4 by 3, and then got brought into a 16 by 9 slide deck.
11:41:33 And so what you're seeing here is a slide that's been stretched a little bit.
11:41:39 Well, this is one of the things you can encounter.
11:41:43 Another thing that you need to be thinking about when you're sharing video for social is is your content gonna fit in the frame that social media is best sharing.
11:41:56 So you're recording your traditional video on a 16 by 9 aspect ratio.
11:42:02 This is this kind of longer rectangle. This is what most of monitors, both computer screens and tvs, are now at 16.
11:42:12 By 9 you can still find 4 by 3 screen usually what that means is you're going to lose a little bit on the sides.
11:42:23 Whoops, but that's usually not the biggest deal what becomes a much bigger issues.
11:42:29 If you're trying to do something like instagram and you want a square image for your video, do you have content that fits within that square.
11:42:36 Are you going to get something important cut off and then, even more So there's a lot of video instagram stories and Tiktok And actually facebook's doing stories now all of these stories these kind of quick things are
11:42:54 they're great because a lot of people see them a lot of people on social media see video posts the algorithms in their favor to see video posts higher than text posts, or even still images.
11:43:12 But the ratio is this vertical one, and so vertical video is 9 by 16, and that's going to work for phones.
11:43:19 It looks great on a phone. But now, you're talking to an extremely small amount of that original horizontal video.
11:43:27 You can do this, you can totally take offs on the video and edit it for a vertical. and there's a lot of ways you can do that. you know, even things like just bringing it into canva to make a short,
11:43:40 little video piece. But You just want to think about what content you're seeing, and you can see that the shots are really we made the shots different.
11:43:49 It was easy to go from a horizontal to square and just cut out part of the shot.
11:43:55 But for vertical video I really we needed a different angle a different shot entirely.
11:43:59 So that's. just something to start thinking about being aware of maybe you record a little bit of footage that you know you're going to share on social media.
11:44:07 The other thing you can do is things like put text and titles above and below.
11:44:11 If you've got a vertical screen but you've only got a horizontal image, you can make the most of what you're working with.
11:44:19 But it is kind of a Gotcha, you know, making the decision, knowing what is most important.
11:44:28 What do you know you're going to share you know if you record an entire video?
11:44:31 But you're not sure How you're going to share it But you know you're going to post it on social media.
11:44:37 You definitely want to think about that video ratio. And what of this large piece of content?
11:44:42 You plan to share online, as you can tell, I do outreach.
11:44:49 I actually have to struggle with this a bit when we make these beautiful videos, for you know, Tv, and for the Internet here where we're recording stuff to go on our channel.
11:45:01 And it's a pan like a panel's my worst nightmare, because a panel is super horizontal.
11:45:05 You've got this you know, maybe the facilitator and you've got 3 speakers. and now I've got to figure out how to get that online.
11:45:12 And if I put it online, you know, if I put it on like Instagram and it's this teeny-winy little thing.
11:45:17 Have to figure out how to get text around it, or I can make it square.
11:45:21 But then I invariably have to cut off a panelist I mean there's there's no wind.
11:45:27 There's no way when you cut off a panelist and then, if you're doing vertical, it's like forget about it.
11:45:31 So you don't want to change your event to fit social media.
11:45:36 But you do want to change the way you consider the shot.
11:45:40 For example, if I had my way at those events where there's a panel, I would say, let's try and get a vertical shot by going to the very end of the table, and seeing everyone kind of in a row you know
11:45:49 this way that would suddenly be you'd be able to get like 4 people all together, looking at them down the table length.
11:45:57 So if you're in control of v filming that's one way that you could do stuff like that
11:46:08 And I hope I hope someday while you're out filming your events.
11:46:12 And right now, You're like I don't know if we're gonna meet this if normation you look I remember when Jin brought up Azbek Ratios film it'll just make my life i'll feel
11:46:20 it i'll feel you remembering this moment
11:46:43 I also want to share that hopefully. everybody embarks on some of these projects, and some of these ideas that we've been talking about today and previous sessions with the Vermont arts Council through the course of
11:46:57 workshops. but We're offering these again and in the fall?
11:47:01 Is that true, Jen? No. in the summer, in the summer?
11:47:05 Yeah in July. So you know, spin back around
11:47:13 The best thing that you can do. is to start working on these projects they'll encounter some things that don't work, and that is painful in the moment.
11:47:21 But it's like totally the best thing to tell you that's how we learn.
11:47:24 So. remember those moments come back around ask some questions with some of that we'll be doing the whole set again.
11:47:31 The workshops, the tech session at the end concentration throughout.
11:47:35 Is that true consultation throughout? Yeah. So if you, if you kind of join late to the stuff we were doing Thirst Council.
11:47:44 The first thing we offered was 8 one on one sessions where you could sign that for a slot to meet with us and talk about your particular technology media technology questions.
11:47:56 And we're going to be doing that again. in July probably more concurrently with the workshops.
11:48:02 We rushed them a little bit to get them out in advance of the workshops, so that folks who wanted to apply for funding with the Arts Council were able to make that deadline this time.
11:48:13 I think we're gonna have them be more happening around the workshops.
11:48:17 We're offering, so that if you attend a workshop and you have some questions, and you start exploring things.
11:48:23 You can come back and ask us more. So We'll have the sign-ups for all that happening in June.
11:48:28 We'll also have all those workshops posted on event bright in June.
11:48:32 They're gonna I believe, be these these have been in the morning our next drawn is going to be in the afternoon early afternoons, so it'll be a little bit different time.
11:48:43 And we'll we may we probably won't be recording those since we have the recordings already on their website.
11:48:48 So also, if you can't make those you can go back to the Vermont Arts Council website, and you can see the recordings from the previous workshops. and also there we have the slide shows.
11:49:00 So all of these assets and resources that we've mentioned the links that we have in the slide shows those are all there and available for you
11:49:19 Well, great, if we don't have any other questions you just I think i'd like to say that it's really been a pleasure talking with you all the day learning about the projects you're working on Really, really interesting things I love that
11:49:33 you're all thinking about different ways to engage with your community.
11:49:38 I really enjoyed talking about some of the technical challenges and figuring out how to work around them.
11:49:43 We'll be posting this recording as Well, to the website, and sharing this slides show that's kind of a hodgepodge of a lot of our favorite hits.
11:49:53 So thank you all for being here today. Thank you. Thanks everybody. Great to see you.